Asked by the Customer on 08-03-2014 18:36:09
Question posted in the General Law category relating to Gauteng
Question posted in the General Law category relating to Gauteng
2 X AARTO fines, one @ 140km/h+ 100km zone (Nov 2013), the other @100km/h+ 60km zone (Dec 2012) - court case flags on AARTO's website. I may have received notices - but moved house during 2013 - so probably went to the old house. Either way, I didnt' go to court.
There are no warrants of execution according to the web site - need advice on how to address?
Thanks
There are no warrants of execution according to the web site - need advice on how to address?
Thanks
Further information relating to Question:
Nov 2013/Charge code 4527
Summons was served in Dec 2012. Tried to contact the court to find out what/who to speak to - could not get anywhere. Eventually gave up.
Dec 2012/Charge code 4506
Not sure if a court date was set or not - assumption is that I have missed this one too.
Message from the Attorney
Posted by Att. Patrick on 08-03-2014 23:25:35
Hi there and thank you for your question,
Typically, people don't do anything until a warrant of arrest has been issued. Then they go and pay the fines. I assume that you know the details of the fines, or something, because you've quoted some details in your question.
Would you be willing to pay the admission of guilt fine online? Have you tried searching for your fines here: https://www.paycity.co.za/default.aspx
If you are able to pay the fine, then that should be the end of it. If the website won't let you pay it, then please let me know and I'll help further.
Have you had an enforcement letter served on you?
Also, have you updated your postal details with them?
But please let me know more information so that I can continue to assist.
If there is a part of the answer which you need more advice on, or clarity please continue in this same thread instead of opening a new question.
Att. Patrick
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Typically, people don't do anything until a warrant of arrest has been issued. Then they go and pay the fines. I assume that you know the details of the fines, or something, because you've quoted some details in your question.
Would you be willing to pay the admission of guilt fine online? Have you tried searching for your fines here: https://www.paycity.co.za/default.aspx
If you are able to pay the fine, then that should be the end of it. If the website won't let you pay it, then please let me know and I'll help further.
Have you had an enforcement letter served on you?
Also, have you updated your postal details with them?
But please let me know more information so that I can continue to assist.
If there is a part of the answer which you need more advice on, or clarity please continue in this same thread instead of opening a new question.
Att. Patrick
Please remember this is a dialog if you have follow up questions please use the REPLY button and ask. If I did not answer the question you thought you were asking, please respond with the specific question you wanted answered. I hope you found my answer helpful, and you have finished asking your questions, please click on the GREEN ACCEPT button in order to mark the question as closed.
Message from the Customer
Hi,
I have obtained all the information I have so far from Paycity.
There is no value on these 2 infringements - both of them simply state "court case", for which there is no option to pay. So the website (Paycity) is not allowing me to pay. I would appreciate further help please.
I received a summons for the one in 2012 - is this an enforcement letter? (tried to contact the court - got nowhere).
I have not had summons served for the one in 2013 yet. Perhaps it will still come.
My postal details are up to date - however it's entirely possible that I missed notices/letters as I don't go to the PO Box regularly.
My concern is on how to approach/address these two infringements. Do I simply go to the court again, and if so where? Will they try to arrest me, as strictly speaking for the infringement in 2012 I am in contempt of court...?
Is there a lawyer/service available that can contact/communicate on my behalf and resolve, perhaps with the prosecutor?
Please advise, thanks.
I have obtained all the information I have so far from Paycity.
There is no value on these 2 infringements - both of them simply state "court case", for which there is no option to pay. So the website (Paycity) is not allowing me to pay. I would appreciate further help please.
I received a summons for the one in 2012 - is this an enforcement letter? (tried to contact the court - got nowhere).
I have not had summons served for the one in 2013 yet. Perhaps it will still come.
My postal details are up to date - however it's entirely possible that I missed notices/letters as I don't go to the PO Box regularly.
My concern is on how to approach/address these two infringements. Do I simply go to the court again, and if so where? Will they try to arrest me, as strictly speaking for the infringement in 2012 I am in contempt of court...?
Is there a lawyer/service available that can contact/communicate on my behalf and resolve, perhaps with the prosecutor?
Please advise, thanks.
Message from the Attorney
Posted by Att. Patrick on 09-03-2014 20:54:32
Hi there again,
Clearly you've missed out on some of the notices because you've used a PO Box for your address. How then can the summons be physically served on you. That's most probably the problem that you now have.
As the fines were issued by AARTO, the public prosecutor can't assist you in any way. Either payment, or negotiating, or withdrawing. You have to deal with AARTO. That's the way it works. There is accordingly no reason to go to either the police station or the Magistrates' Court.
If you don't know when to appear in Court, or you've missed the Court date, then a warrant of arrest will eventually be issued for you. That will have to be served on you, although in all likelihood you will only find out about it at a traffic road block.
Everyone that I've spoken to says that you should contact AARTO directly in order to discuss payment of the fines.
http://www.aarto.gov.za/index.php?option=com_contact&view=category&catid=25&Itemid=143
By telephone: 086 122 7861 / 086 1AARTO1
Or the email address on their website link above.
If you can't come right there, there is nothing else that you can do except to carry on checking the AARTO website for a warrant of arrest.
If you want to go to Court to try speak to the prosecutor, then you'll need to go to the Magistrates Court of the area that the fine was issued in. They won't try to arrest you there.
If you want to hire an attorney personally to visit Court on your behalf, it's going to be expensive.
What you can also try is to visit your nearest vehicle licencing department, and ask them if they can assist because they are linked up to AARTO, and if you have an AARTO warrant out, you are not supposed to be able to renew your car's licence. They could therefore assist!
Att. Patrick
Please remember this is a dialog if you have follow up questions please use the REPLY button and ask. If I did not answer the question you thought you were asking, please respond with the specific question you wanted answered. I hope you found my answer helpful, and you have finished asking your questions, please click on the GREEN ACCEPT button in order to mark the question as closed.
Clearly you've missed out on some of the notices because you've used a PO Box for your address. How then can the summons be physically served on you. That's most probably the problem that you now have.
As the fines were issued by AARTO, the public prosecutor can't assist you in any way. Either payment, or negotiating, or withdrawing. You have to deal with AARTO. That's the way it works. There is accordingly no reason to go to either the police station or the Magistrates' Court.
If you don't know when to appear in Court, or you've missed the Court date, then a warrant of arrest will eventually be issued for you. That will have to be served on you, although in all likelihood you will only find out about it at a traffic road block.
Everyone that I've spoken to says that you should contact AARTO directly in order to discuss payment of the fines.
http://www.aarto.gov.za/index.php?option=com_contact&view=category&catid=25&Itemid=143
By telephone: 086 122 7861 / 086 1AARTO1
Or the email address on their website link above.
If you can't come right there, there is nothing else that you can do except to carry on checking the AARTO website for a warrant of arrest.
If you want to go to Court to try speak to the prosecutor, then you'll need to go to the Magistrates Court of the area that the fine was issued in. They won't try to arrest you there.
If you want to hire an attorney personally to visit Court on your behalf, it's going to be expensive.
What you can also try is to visit your nearest vehicle licencing department, and ask them if they can assist because they are linked up to AARTO, and if you have an AARTO warrant out, you are not supposed to be able to renew your car's licence. They could therefore assist!
Att. Patrick
Please remember this is a dialog if you have follow up questions please use the REPLY button and ask. If I did not answer the question you thought you were asking, please respond with the specific question you wanted answered. I hope you found my answer helpful, and you have finished asking your questions, please click on the GREEN ACCEPT button in order to mark the question as closed.
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